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Dear Mike:
thanks for the advice.  I understand the embarrassment.. we were meeting
friends who were freaking out.. I am glad that some of the boats in peril
were not onboard to see what almost happened...

live and learn,eh?

Thx,
Maureen
----- Original Message -----
From: Chaney, Mike <mike.chaney@xxxxxxxx>
To: <sanjuan23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Sj23 Tech Tips


> IMHO, anytime you raise your keel prior to being safely stowed away in the
> slip, disaster is only waiting to happen.  Years ago, the very first time
I
> went out in my very first sail boat, a MacGregor 26, I failed to lower the
> keel before departing and drifted into the boats across the slipway, with
no
> discernable steerage.  No damage was done, but the entire local yacht club
> was on shore, standing around a Bar-B-Q watching me.  My wife was so
> embarrassed she wouldn't get back on the boat for six months.
>
> Downwind under Bare Poles:  I have sailed downwind under bare poles at 5
> knots in 30 knot winds.  At the time I had a Hunter 35.5 so I simply put
it
> in reverse until I was doing about 2 knots.  In a San Juan it's harder to
do
> because the motor backs out of the water.  I would suggest a drogue, a
> sturdy metal bucket on the end of a 20 foot rope, as standard safety
> equipment for docking in high down wind conditions.
>
> Mike Chaney
> SJ-24
> Fort Worth, Tx
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D. Wendal Attig [mailto:thecoach@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:36 PM
> To: sanjuan23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Sj23 Tech Tips
>
>
> Hi Maureen,
>
> First Question:  What did a 1982 San Juan 23 cost?
> I have a 1983 SJ 23. While dealer mark-ups varied slightly depending on
> seasonal incentives, the boats retailed at $12,795 FOB plus (in my case)
> $3964.22 in freight charges from Auburn, WA  to the Buffalo NY Area* .The
> sail inventory was not included in the price, which was another;  $425 for
a
> racing main ($390 for a cruising main),  $280/$258 for the jib, $360 for
the
> 153% Genoa and $460 for the spinnaker. Of course radio, instrumentation,
> compass, outboard and mount, boarding/swim ladder and safety equipment
were
> extra as well. (*Source: Clark Sails Price Sheet, "Effective April 15,
> 1982"). it would easily have been possible to have $20-21,000 into the
boat
> when it went into the water initially--another $1200-1500 if you also
added
> a new trailer to the deal.
>
> Suggestion on your docking in high winds:
>
> I never dock with the centerboard down. The centerboard is rarely
effective
> unless you are under sail (or enjoy scraping bottom in shallow water!)
> I have noticed however that with the high freeboard on the SJ23, at slow
> speeds (typically at docking or mooring  speed) there is a lot of surface
> area subject to wind pressure, throwing the bow off in a direction other
> than normal rudder control provides (in flying this same effect is called
> sideslipping--moving ahead in almost the right direction, but sideways as
> well).
>
> Typically I found have found that the solution is to go slow enough to
> control, yet fast enough to counter the wind. Anticipate, anticipate,
> anticipate, then adjust, adjust, adjust to the changing attitude of the
boat
> to the wind , make counter-moves in advance and leave yourself and other
> boats a wide berth. Keep your motor running (even if in neutral) until you
> are safely moored or secured to the dock, even though most kicker-sized
> outboards are not up to the "quick reversal" challenge. Above all, keep
your
> "crew" at the ready with fenders and boat hooks to limit any potential
> damage.
>
> Better yet......just stay out and play until the wind dies down--you can
> always claim "boating safety" as the "Captain's decision"that kept you
from
> being on time to the next appointment!
>
> I wish you smooth sailing and better mooring.
>
> D. Wendal Attig
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maureen Larson" <mlarsonassoc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <sanjuan23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Cathy Chiari" <CLC336@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Sj23 Tech Tips
>
>
> > Dear Bob:
> >
> > Thx for tech tips.. they are great.. some questions for the group:
> >
> > Does anyone know what price our sj23 retailed new in 1982?  I am in the
> > process of transferring a title and naming our boat with a new partner,
> > Cathy Chiari.
> >
> > Secondly, I am new to sailing. (A powerboat convert!)  Do you usually
dock
> > with your centerboard down in heavy wind and currents when motoring in?
> we
> > almost had a mishap in which the heavy northerly winds picked us up
while
> > motoring in and almost pushed us into a dock and 3 boats.  Another
larger
> > boat almost beached itself on rocks after us. (My previous experience
with
> > power boating and Blake island docking was similar but the power boat
was
> > more manageable in this condition.)
> >
> > Our Yamaha OB usually is adequate but this time we were in reverse and
> still
> > moving forward at a good clip. It was alittle too exciting!  We had 25
> knot
> > winds in so was a great sailing ride until then..
> >
> > Upon arrival, center board was up and sails were down while we expected
to
> > slowly  motor in. Would it have made any difference and would we
> compromised
> > the steering ? ( which we didn't have control of either.)
> >
> > I  hate to air my novice abilities publicly, but I need to start
somewhere
> > and learn from my mistakes.
> >
> > What do you think? Any tactful advice from seasoned skippers will be
> > appreciated!
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Maureen Larson
> > Sas"sea"babe or Babe"sea"licious (name to be determined!)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bob Schimmel <bschimme@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: SJ23 DISTRIBUTION <sanjuan23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:21 AM
> > Subject: Sj23 Tech Tips
> >
> >
> > > Good day All;
> > >
> > > For those of you who haven't seen the changes yet, I've been going
> > > through my back log of SJ23 emails and adding the contents into some
> > > existing Tips.  In other cases I've created new ones. I've forgotten
> > > which ones I've changed, but this is shown in the indexes.  Thanks to
> > > all who contributed. The pictures for some of them will come later.
> > >
> > > Paul I'm anxiously awaiting the pictures of your steam bending.  The
> > > railings that is, not the boat!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards
> > >
> > > Bob Schimmel
> > >
> > >
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