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Re: outboard




Yes, and I was the one that said Chris was nuts, that
8 or 6 was plenty.  I appolige to Chris publicly now,
as I wish that I had a 15 or so, in the Gulf of MX,
and with more distance. Paul
--- Chris Chandler <res03w5b@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> The half throttle comment was mine, and it only
> works because the 
> 9.8 and 15 hp engines are the same size and weight. 
> But I can 
> feel a huge performance difference between the old
> Honda 7.5 and 
> the current Johnson 15.  (I think the Honda could
> have used a 
> better prop.)  I don't know what actual difference
> is  because I 
> installed the knotmeter after I changed engines. 
> And I probably 
> wouldn't believe it anyway, because the uncalibrated
> meter 
> sometimes tells me I'm doing six knots idling across
> the harbor 
> without a wake.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6 Apr 2002, at 12:24, Paul Halenbeck wrote:
> 
> > If I recall the archive discussion, someone was
> > advocating a 15 or so, on the theory that one does
> not
> > have to run-it full bore, and more power is good. 
> I
> > wrote that I had a 9 1/2 on a baloba 20--too much
> > power--and now have a 8 mercury 2 stroke on a
> Westerly
> > 22--a heavy boat, especially as compared to the
> > Sanjuan 23, and the 8 did everything I neeed and
> more.
> >  This was true--on the inland lake I was on--but
> now
> > on the Gulf of Mexico I could use  more power. 
> How
> > much is a question, but would guess up to 15. This
> is
> > tides, currents, and some really nifty waves at
> times.
> >         So here is my oponion--inland-6-8 is fine.
> > Maybe up to 9.9.  (but 9.9 is overkill)  Gulf of
> MX
> > 9.9 + to 15.  This does not get to the 4 cycles
> being
> > torquer? (more push at lower r.p.m.s.  Also note
> that
> > several motors, using Merc as a example, are the
> same
> > weight and size through several H.P. You get to
> look
> > this one up yourself, but last I looked a 6 and a
> 10
> > were the same weight and configuration.  When the
> Feds
> > put motor limits in the Boundery waters canoe
> area,
> > folks that used the motor routes would get the 15
> hp
> > and the cowling for the 8 and the federalias would
> > have not a clue.  In that area there is some big
> > water, and some long distances, and poking along
> with
> > a low hp engine full of gear was painfull. Point
> being
> > that one can move up a model without increasing
> > weight, just cost.                          
> ---Part
> > of the question is do you occasionally have to
> push
> > through waves over the bow to get home on bigger
> water
> > or not.  If so pop for the 8, or even a bit more. 
> A 6
> > well do fine till water washes over the bow. A 8
> will
> > move it.  A 10-15 will move you with confidence,
> but
> > there is more force on the bracket, stern, and
> need
> > for better components. I have never felt that
> using a
> > bracket even close to its rated limit was bright. 
> I
> > also have re-enforced the stern with marine
> plywood or
> > similar when installing a new bracket.  There are
> more
> > that a couple motors at the botom of Big bay on
> Lake
> > Vermillion (Minnesota) and between Grand portage
> and
> > that island in Lake superior that looks like the
> wolfs
> > eye due to storms vs brackets vs standard
> inslation.
> > When your outboard lifts out of the water, then
> slams
> > back there is alot of force on both the
> > bracket/motor/and hull.                       
> Which
> > gets to props.  The motor you buy has a standard
> prop,
> > and you may want to get a prop designed to push a
> > heavy load--like a sailboat, instead of the
> fishing
> > boat that the factory prop was designed for.  Some
> > salesmen will look at you like you are nuts, but
> > tell-up what you are pushing, in weight, and to
> call
> > the factory or distributor for a better prop for
> your
> > application.  (Bob--moderate inland lake--5 is
> fine)  
> >                      -------Disclamer--This
> oponion is
> > just that of one guy, who mostly runs outboards
> that
> > he finds used and cheap.   
> > --- Bob Spencer <bspen@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I am in the process of purchasing a new motor
> for my
> > > boat and need some
> > > input on the appropriate size. I seem to recall
> a
> > > discussion in the past
> > > which indicated about a 6 hp outboard was
> required
> > > to drive the boat to
> > > hull speed, but don't remember the details of
> what
> > > was said....maybe it was
> > > a 5.5 hp. Does anyone use a 5 hp outboard on
> their
> > > boat? If so, is that
> > > enough powder?
> > > 
> > > All things being considered, I seem to be faced
> with
> > > choosing between an 8
> > > hp and a 5 hp. Any advice based on experience?
> My
> > > sailing is done on a
> > > moderate size inland lake, no tides, etc.
> > > 
> > > Bob
> > > 
> > > 
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> > Paul Rosebud Halenbeck --30 Turner St suite 908
> --Clearwater Florida
> > 33756                                   "If you
> set aside 3 mile
> > island, and Chernubyl nucular power has a good
> safty record." 
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> ------------------------------
> Jack Chandler
> Richland, Washington USA
> www.jack-chandler.com
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Paul Rosebud Halenbeck --30 Turner St suite 908 --Clearwater Florida 33756                                                      "If you set aside 3 mile island, and Chernubyl nucular power has a good safty record."  Tresuary Securaty Paul O'Neil  --                                                         -"I cannot get no satasfaction, I can't get no Girlie action"  Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones, written in Clearwater Fl at the Fort Harrison Hotel in 1965 after Clearwater P.D. closed down a concert for excessive rowdyness after 4 songs.

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