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RE: interior carpet




There is little funkier than a perpetually damp whatever. Don't glue
anything down; make everything removable and spray-able with a hose (after a
dose of bleach). The more open the weave, the better. Have the edges bound.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sanjuan23-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sanjuan23-
> admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of geneandlizadams
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:31 PM
> To: sanjuan23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: interior carpet
> 
> Rick and all
> I have found that carpet backing tends to trap water between the hull and
> the backing. The open weave sounds like it has possibilities. The original
> carpet had no backing. I have torn out carpet that had trapped gallons of
> water between the baking and the hull.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Bensyl" <rbensyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <sanjuan23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: interior carpet
> 
> 
> > I brought home a bunch of samples of the "marine" carpet from Home Depot
> today.  The fibers or the "carpet" are basically all mildew and stain
> resistant (synthetic) poly-olefin type material.
> >
> > There were basically three different types of carpet. All three claim
> they
> are approved for pool areas, decks, garages, boat carpeting and are not
> supposed to absorb water. The fibers on top don't differ that much, but
> the
> backing materials are very different. These are the three types:
> >
> > 1) this type has a ~ 1/8 inch thick black rubber that they call "marine
> backing". Looks like a non-sticky version of butyl rubber.
> >
> > 2) the second one has a backing called latex unitary- which appears to
> be
> a coating of clear latex impregnated into the base of the fibers.
> >
> > 3) the third type has a backing called "action back" which appears to be
> an open weave of waterproof fibers that the top layer is woven into. It
> almost appears to not be a backing at all (looks like the underside of
> normal home carpet to my untrained eye)
> >
> > What are the main issues/concerns for using this stuff on the sides to
> replace the original vinyl? Is this mainly a water absorbtion problem for
> the outer fibers, a backing issue, or condensation problem? On the surface
> they seem like they are all pretty non-absorbent and durable, but perhaps
> there are other things I should be thinking about?
> >
> > Thanks to all who have added ideas and suggestions to this project!
> >
> > Rick Bensyl
> > SJ-23 First Wave
> >
> >
> > >
> > > From: "geneandlizadams" <geneandlizadams@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: 2006/10/24 Tue AM 12:36:52 EDT
> > > To: <sanjuan23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: SJ23 - Trailer guides and interior carpet
> > >
> > > Rick
> > > I would be very careful about using indoor out door carpet on the
> interior
> > > of your boat. The only material I have ever seen that works has no
> backing
> > > and will not absorb water. You might buy a minimum amount, and soak it
> in
> > > water. ring it out and if it does not dry in an hour in the sun. you
> do
> not
> > > want to use it.
> > > Gene Adams
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rick Bensyl" <rbensyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <sanjuan23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:21 AM
> > > Subject: Re: SJ23 - Trailer guides and interior carpet
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone-
> > > >
> > > > 1) I also have been considering putting some guides on the trailer
> when I
> > > "remodel" it next spring.
> > > >
> > > > 2) I have been working on several interior projects and removed the
> > > original vinyl fabric (it was nasty) from walls above the shelf this
> > > weekend.
> > > >
> > > > I do not have Eagle stores in my area (live in the southeast) and
> can't
> > > seen to find the Breitlin seascape fabric that Bob Schimmel used.
> Local
> > > marine store recommended using a thin high quality outdoor carpet made
> by
> > > Shaw industries. I looked at it at Home Depot and it seems like it
> would
> > > work well- much nicer and softer than the kind of stuff you see on
> miniature
> > > golf courses. Its inexpensive, durable, mildew resistant and can be
> glued on
> > > easily. Also comes in hundreds of designs, colors and several
> thicknesses.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone ever use this stuff on the cabin walls or have any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Rick Bensyl
> > > > SJ 23 First wave
> > > > Atlanta, GA
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Bob Schimmel <bpschim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Date: 2006/10/22 Sun PM 02:42:14 EDT
> > > > > To: SJ23 Distribution <sanjuan23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Subject: SJ23 - Trailer guides
> > > > >
> > > > > Good Day All:
> > > > >
> > > > > I always trailer launch Panache and have done so successfully with
> only
> > > > > the short keel guides to assist me in centering the hull over the
> > > > > trailer.  This past Fall I ran into a problem that prompted me to
> > > > > consider reinstalling my old steel 4' long hull guides.  They are
> > > > > padded!  I'm reluctant to do that owing to the installation
> difficulty
> > > > > on a tandem axle trailer.  I've seen the vinyl guides and they
> work
> well
> > > > > for a power run about, BUT a 3000 lb sailboat?
> > > > >
> > > > > So my question is addresses to those of you with these vinyl
> guides,
> or
> > > > > other guides;  are they adequate to center the hull over the
> trailer,
> > > > > hold the hull over the trailer in a slight side breeze?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob Schimmel
> > > > > (Always stay curious)
> > > > >
> > > > > bpschim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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